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posted on 7-21-2010 at 02:51 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Final goodbyes - OGL

I figure we could use a nice little going away thread, to make our final posts here on this site we've given so much time, money and energy to. It just seemed right.

I actually found this site while looking for a football GM fantasy site. I just made a quick single season team without much a thought and let it run on. I got hooked pretty quickly on running my team and all the minutiae.

I soon discovered all the fun was over in the off-topic boards. This is where I really made a commitment to the site, because this was the only board where interesting and stupidly funny was happening. Every other board was just too dull, it was the off-topic shenanigans that really kept me going.

After all the leagues I've been in, the Warren Spahn being the first, on to the Ron Santo that I ran for a spell and the ill-fated Urban Shocker league, none mattered as much to me as the Oscar Gamble league. This is where we planted our flag and where we had the best mix of owners. Just look at the activity scores for all the private leagues, no league comes anywhere near as busy as ours. It's a shame it had to end, but the game became boring and conversation was all we had left. Great conversation, but still, the business of this site wants discussion limited to just the game. Silly, considering all the ads the boards have now, you'd think our activity would count for more. Oh well.

So long, Sim Dynasty, it's been a good run. We'll always have the memes.

The exodus begins.





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posted on 7-21-2010 at 04:46 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
My statement is in the World Series box score. And, see you, space cowboys.

(Yeah, I made a bunch of these.)





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posted on 7-21-2010 at 04:51 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I think I've said this here before, but I found the site within the first few weeks of actually having internet at home, on one of those awful AOL discs, when I was just searching for fantasy baseball. I did the whole single season thing for a really long time, and I only found the board on accident. I started making horrible posts in off topic in 2003, I think, and continued with that and single season teams for a couple years. The AKL/EBL/whatever was my first pay league (STAND UP BART), and I eventually captained that ship as it ran into the iceberg of widespread apathy. Which was fun.

Anyway. At some point in there the insanely silly off topic era began, which was when I started to become better acquainted with a lot of you people. Then the RSL, and the OGL, and all that jazz. It's been...real, or something, I don't know.





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My statement is in the World Series box score. And, see you, space cowboys.

(Yeah, I made a bunch of these.)


Make Sure Dad Gets His Gin is especially poignant.





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posted on 7-21-2010 at 05:07 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
I've never actually been in the OGL but have enjoyed the discussions (although at times I haven't kept up.) Sometimes snarky, usually funny, God Bless Gerald McLaws.
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Krautmatt found this site, I dont know how. We made some single season leagues, and we got especially hooked because of the renaming.

We went into off topic, where Skier and I had some disasterously stupid conversations, and he was my rival, and rivals keep you coming back. Of course, soon after HollywoodOz became my rival because he is actually pure evil.

I, in true off topic fashion, got banned well before the OGL even existed for making off topic posts, and was banned for nearly 3 years. But yet I tried to come back here, nearly every year. 3rd time is a charm I suppose. I had to eat some serious shit, but it was worth it.

This thing was all grown up when I got here, took a bit to get used to it, but it was really a nice thing you had going. Its a shame it appears it will die, but i guess this is what happens when we dont take a stand, it never gets resolved, and by the time we do take a stand, it may be too far gone.





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Hopefully we can get shep to come by and dance on our graves a bit, that would be awesome and fitting.





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posted on 7-21-2010 at 05:39 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
after shep died, the whole thing was kind of a pitiful shell really.

(back when i first started was when happy was kind of in his first heyday, and it was something to see. never did one kid torture a group of people like tom could in those days, and i would like to really commend him on it. nobody can say, young tom is not unique.)

for the history, the GNL was my first pay league, after fooling around with single season for quite a while. aaron found me in the wsl, and brought me into the usl wthout a vote. later, he brought me into the OGL without a vote. there i was reunited with daniel and kurt, who i knew from the YBL. and i found a host of characters i had previously just sort of brushed up against (and got quite wet) in places like off topic and sports talk.

in the OGL, folks like Craig and Tyles, kann and kurt and daniel and drew and facematt and jon benne and onur (some of whom i first knew from the USL), and later deveau and 13 and others, and happy and erik especially, made playing the game and following the forum one of the most enjoyable features of most every day. it is somehow fitting that sports talk ended us, we probably had the most fun over there.

i thank everyone who participated and hope to see you around the forums at simdynasty or anywhere else on the interwebs. or tom there right here in good old Alexandria.

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My statement is in the World Series box score. And, see you, space cowboys.

(Yeah, I made a bunch of these.)


i have to admit, i got downright choked up at the (Burma Shave) part.

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You'll be back in a year..

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Krautmatt found this site, I dont know how. We made some single season leagues, and we got especially hooked because of the renaming.

We went into off topic, where Skier and I had some disasterously stupid conversations, and he was my rival, and rivals keep you coming back. Of course, soon after HollywoodOz became my rival because he is actually pure evil.

I, in true off topic fashion, got banned well before the OGL even existed for making off topic posts, and was banned for nearly 3 years. But yet I tried to come back here, nearly every year. 3rd time is a charm I suppose. I had to eat some serious shit, but it was worth it.

This thing was all grown up when I got here, took a bit to get used to it, but it was really a nice thing you had going. Its a shame it appears it will die, but i guess this is what happens when we dont take a stand, it never gets resolved, and by the time we do take a stand, it may be too far gone.






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posted on 7-21-2010 at 05:59 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
Here, I'll do one of these for serious, for nostalgia and shit.

I remember which player it was at baseballreference - Eddie Matthews. Who knows why. My first post was about a pitcher in a single-season league who hit for the cycle. I joined the Billy Hamilton League (Dynasty), where Meathead's team won a bunch of titles before I got out after my obligatory 6 season run. Then the ill-fated Bob Uecker League, which had a ridiculous "1 out of 12 chance" lottery for each team that didn't make the postseason. Became a denizen of OT in this time-frame, when we used to talk about sports and make fun of skierdude. I'm 90% certain that the seed for the OGL was planted in a post by Lou, although I know other people had done theme teams in various leagues (I remember KrautMatt and Tommy talking about this at one point, before the OGL was even an idea.) Somebody could probably dig up Lou's post in OT if they were so inclined. I was definitely in on the ground floor with the idea, and then made my first theme because I had just watched 24 Hour Party People. Joined the USL because it was a thing to do, and I had another theme I wanted to try out. Met all you people. Made fun of a lot of assholes. There's probably more but I am too stupid now to remember and also banned.

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Also, I named this league. I want that on the record because I am proud of it.
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you gotta love Happy's rage in all of this

Without taking a side, surely everyone has to realize that Tyler and Craig are 2 of some 2400 team owners. Disagree with Tyson's banning all you want (i'm not getting into that), but lets not exaggerate the importance of some of us just because we've been around forever.

The "taking my business elsewhere" line doesn't work at the restaurant that pissed you off, and it probably isn't going to work here. Especially when every post / thread is "lol gameside". Gameside is his business, not the free boards.

Yes of course I joined Hugtowne. Love the "e" at the end.

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posted on 7-21-2010 at 06:05 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
the Steve Miller Band is going to come out of retirement (AT THE MOTHERFUCKING RETIREMENT HOME OH MOTHERFUCKING SNAP) and do a song about Hugtowne.
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That is news? I thought that was a given?
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posted on 7-21-2010 at 06:43 PM Edit Post Reply With Quote
yes, i admit that i was shocked it did not play automatically when first i went there.
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You know how long we've been on this site? When we started, it was with this 17 year old geeky white kid who was obsessed with Tupac. Now he's probably finishing business school.





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Oh, he was younger than that, wasn't he? Fourteen or fifteen, I think. But he'd still be just about done with business school, yea.





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when daniel started, costen shockley wasn't even born yet. and that son of a censored is about 300 now.
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you gotta love Happy's rage in all of this

Without taking a side, surely everyone has to realize that Tyler and Craig are 2 of some 2400 team owners. Disagree with Tyson's banning all you want (i'm not getting into that), but lets not exaggerate the importance of some of us just because we've been around forever.

The "taking my business elsewhere" line doesn't work at the restaurant that pissed you off, and it probably isn't going to work here. Especially when every post / thread is "lol gameside". Gameside is his business, not the free boards.

Yes of course I joined Hugtowne. Love the "e" at the end.


You know what, We may be 2, 5, 10, or more people who sign the petition, or leave on our own right, and we may not be that big to the bottom line, but we are something.

fact of the matter is, facematt, you can stand idly by and let others be dicks to your friends, (which really says something about your character), or you can take a stand with me. And maybe with one more voice telling tyson he is an idiot, he will give up. And maybe he wont, and we will all be flushed out of here.

Something like 5 of the top 10 most regular posters are here in this league. We give more to this site than our money, whether for good or for bad.

and CC, I will not be back in a year. I will never come back. There is no question in my mind that this is true. I will not give tyson anymore of my money so long as this banning is in place.





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(im sad at how few people have signed. I know some of you love the game, but I think its sad you wouldnt even risk possibly giving up the game to support your friends.)

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you gotta love Happy's rage in all of this

Without taking a side, surely everyone has to realize that Tyler and Craig are 2 of some 2400 team owners. Disagree with Tyson's banning all you want (i'm not getting into that), but lets not exaggerate the importance of some of us just because we've been around forever.

The "taking my business elsewhere" line doesn't work at the restaurant that pissed you off, and it probably isn't going to work here. Especially when every post / thread is "lol gameside". Gameside is his business, not the free boards.

Yes of course I joined Hugtowne. Love the "e" at the end.


You know what, We may be 2, 5, 10, or more people who sign the petition, or leave on our own right, and we may not be that big to the bottom line, but we are something.

fact of the matter is, facematt, you can stand idly by and let others be dicks to your friends, (which really says something about your character), or you can take a stand with me. And maybe with one more voice telling tyson he is an idiot, he will give up. And maybe he wont, and we will all be flushed out of here.

Something like 5 of the top 10 most regular posters are here in this league. We give more to this site than our money, whether for good or for bad.


Tom - I gotta say you taking up for the little guy somewhat flies in the face of what I feel is your normal POV - the "the rich are rich and let them do what they want to / can afford".

What if Tyson just thinks that these guys aren't worth the trouble anymore (see bolded)? What does the OGL / off topic posting really do for Tyson? You know there are many of owners who would never even bother with the non league boards, some don't even know they are there or care.

As for sticking up for those guys - yes they are my friends, but this is the internet, and it's not serious business to me (and I wouldn't think anyone on here, except for Tyson). I'm not going to get my panties in a wad because my friends just got kicked out of a bar that they have been loitering around in for years (in some cases, only really interested when there is controversy ((sorry Aaron)) ordering nothing but waters and the occasional beer, all the while mocking the game, the new forums, whatever.

Does it really have to be that serious? It's the internet. There is already a new forum up. The OGL has been dead for many renewals now. It's time.

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I have to say I'm sad to see the OGL go. It was fun to check in every now and then to see what crazy crap you guys had come up with next. But its demise was more or less inevitable. It's fitting that it's going out in something of a blaze of glory, as much as can be expected considering the medium.

I joined the USL almost exactly 4 years ago, during the last World Cup. At the time I had to compete with mr1313 for a spot in the league. It was a lot of fun hanging out with you guys all these years, and I will check in on the new board every now and then. If any of the usual suspects are ever in Chicago, definitely look me up. It was cool hanging out with Tyler. Really more like old friends getting together for a couple brews at the bar than any kind of awkward internet meetup.

I figured I would eventually join back up, or more likely join the OGL football league when the time came. But it seems it's not to be.

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