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posted on 3-21-2014 at 09:37 PM Edit Post
Football changes coming

Some updates are coming for football that address some bugs that have been reported:

- Fixed a bug that would allow an injured player to play in the game in certain circumstances.

- Fixed a bug causing shotgun passes to be more successful than they should be.

- Out of position players at QB will now be less successful for anything other than light passing. (RB's were being played at QB and being almost as successful as a regular QB; now, non-QB's playing at QB will start to suffer after throwing more than 4 or 5 passes per quarter. This will still allow an RB to be used for emergencies or for a light passing scheme.)

- Players' "resting" status is now maintained between quarters.

- Resting status is now displayed in Dynasty Vision; their Energy bars will turn yellow when they are unavailable due to resting or temporary injury. This only applies to games going forward.

- Adjustments have been made to balance out DT's and DE's. The sim was creating too many good DT's and not enough good DE's.

I should have these changes in place within a few days, depending on how testing goes.

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posted on 3-23-2014 at 05:52 AM Edit Post
These changes have been installed.

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posted on 3-23-2014 at 08:02 PM Edit Post
What kind of change should we expect with the shotgun completion percentage?
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posted on 3-25-2014 at 07:41 PM Edit Post
Shotgun to effective again? Yikes. I give up to much sacks in the other formations.

The Resting Bar is awesome though.

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posted on 3-25-2014 at 09:40 PM Edit Post
What was happening was there was a glitch in the math where some of the math was including the extra dropback and some wasn't, the "proper" defense against a particular Shotgun play to not have it's normal effectiveness. So, like other plays, each distance of shotgun pass has a defense that will stop it relatively cold. Against the "wrong" defense it will, of course, still be effective but the way it was broken a short shotgun was essentially a 5 yard guarantee about 75% of the time. This was especially noticeable in goal line or 2-point situations, where the proper defense against short shotgun (shallow zone) had the same effect as other defenses. Now, shallow zone will seriously impact short shotgun just as it impacts other short passes, etc.

So it's not a "punish the shotgun" across the board thing, just fixing appropriate defenses. A shotgun offense can still certainly work.

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posted on 3-25-2014 at 09:49 PM Edit Post
Were there any adjustments made to the long shotgun passes or was it just short shotgun vs shallow zone?





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posted on 3-26-2014 at 01:47 AM Edit Post
Y did you make these changes to shotgun you should of made changes to the screen pass effectiveness





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posted on 3-26-2014 at 02:22 AM Edit Post
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Out of position players at QB will now be less successful for anything other than light passing. (RB's were being played at QB and being almost as successful as a regular QB; now, non-QB's playing at QB will start to suffer after throwing more than 4 or 5 passes per quarter. This will still allow an RB to be used for emergencies or for a light passing scheme.)

I have to say i'm really not a fan of this one. if we could make position changes, then fine, but we can't. I've seen several HB who have better skills at QB. I've even used a P as a starting QB because that's what his skill set was. if we can't change positions and I have a punter who's A/A A exe, I should be able to use him effectively at quarterback. taking away that ability without allowing us to change positions really detracts from the game, imo.





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posted on 3-26-2014 at 03:22 AM Edit Post
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I have to say i'm really not a fan of this one. if we could make position changes, then fine, but we can't.


I am working on position changes right now.

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posted on 3-26-2014 at 03:23 AM Edit Post
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Were there any adjustments made to the long shotgun passes or was it just short shotgun vs shallow zone?


That was just an example, all shotgun passing had the same basic flaw.

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I don't see why we should be able to make position changes. If the guy played QB or whatever in college so be it but it's not very realistic or logical for a guy that played RB the whole way through college to then come out and be allowed to change into a QB for the pros.
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I don't see why we should be able to make position changes. If the guy played QB or whatever in college so be it but it's not very realistic or logical for a guy that played RB the whole way through college to then come out and be allowed to change into a QB for the pros.


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That black guy for the Patriots who when he lost a step played Nickleback when the Patriots won 3 Super Bowls.

All great examples that players can change positions all the time. Some are succesful, and some are just terrible, sometimes mid season.





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posted on 3-29-2014 at 02:18 AM Edit Post
How many of those converted from a position other than QB in college into a QB in the pros? That's what I'm talking about. Sure there's lots of examples of guys that played DE in college converting into LBs for the NFL because of their lack of size, or in the case of Antwan Randle El, who actually played QB in college, converting into a WR for the pros. QB is a unique position though, you can't just convert into one from college going into pro ball. You need the reps, you need the practice, and you need the skills to perform at a high enough level to be a QB in the NFL.
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I hear what your saying, and agree, one does not just convert overnight. Can someone convert over time? Yes, and that's the system Admin is working which is detailed in the Beta system. It will take time to convert.

I think the idea is more for people wanting to run an Offense like that at Army or Navy. Option Runs with the QB pulling it down and running. The Option Run is something I hear is coming at some point.





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posted on 3-29-2014 at 03:03 AM Edit Post
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I was talking about QBs.
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posted on 3-29-2014 at 01:39 PM Edit Post
then there's this guy, a good HB who has always had great passing skills and has now declined into a best pos of QB. how's that for odd?

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posted on 3-29-2014 at 06:14 PM Edit Post
I suggest something different to approach the position changes... basically, if you don't want some players to play in a different position, then just don't create them.

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Skill parameters + Change Position + 2OL

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posted on 3-29-2014 at 09:52 PM Edit Post
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I don't see why we should be able to make position changes. If the guy played QB or whatever in college so be it but it's not very realistic or logical for a guy that played RB the whole way through college to then come out and be allowed to change into a QB for the pros.


So once again, I was talking about QBs. You conveniently left the second part out, which doesn't surprise me.

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posted on 3-30-2014 at 02:43 AM Edit Post
the first part is a definitive statement. the second part reads as an example. if you're intending to speak to the QB position only, the proper way to do that would be to say something like "I don't see why we should be able to make positions changes to quarterback. then your meaning would be clear.





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Well, let's not get pedantic on people's statements. Position changes are coming, they are coming for all positions, and they will be relatively easy to make: train a player in that position most of the season or play him in that position most of the season and the player will be that position next season. Whether or not he can succeed in that position will be up to his ratings.

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the first part is a definitive statement. the second part reads as an example. if you're intending to speak to the QB position only, the proper way to do that would be to say something like "I don't see why we should be able to make positions changes to quarterback. then your meaning would be clear.


I'm sure it was clear enough for most people.

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the first part is a definitive statement. the second part reads as an example. if you're intending to speak to the QB position only, the proper way to do that would be to say something like "I don't see why we should be able to make positions changes to quarterback. then your meaning would be clear.


I'm sure it was clear enough for most people.


It was only clear to me when you stated your comment was in regards to QB's. It is always best to use the words that clearly communicate one's thoughts. This is the sole purpose of language after all. :rolleyes:





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It was only clear to me when you stated your comment was in regards to QB's. It is always best to use the words that clearly communicate one's thoughts. This is the sole purpose of language after all.


That doesn't surprise me either.

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