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maxthesax
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Hall of fame ballot is out - please take a moment to vote

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Just to refresh - you can vote for as many as 5 or as little as 0 (if you don't think anyone is worthy, you must say so)
If a player does not receive a vote in his first 2 years he will be removed from future ballots (player with no vote in 1st year will have his name in caps)
after 5 years players not inducted will be removed - last year of eligibility 2051(player will be in caps for his last year)



STARTING PITCHERS:

2054 Bill Throneberry SP: 201-98 (67% win ratio) 3.66 era, 1.27 whip, 2351 k, .86 k per inning, 2.3 k/w ratio, 2x all star, 3 cy nominations, 1 g glove, 1x 20 gamer, 2 era under 3, 2x 200k seasons. Post Season: 48 games, 18 starts, 4-6 5.50 era , 1.60 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12799969

2054 Rich Heaverlo SP: 202-110 (64.7% win ratio), 3.47 era, 1.22 whip, 2496 k, .83 per inning, 2.61 k/w ratio, 2x all star, 3 cy nominations,
1x20 gamer, 2 era under 3, 6 whip under 1.15, 200k 2x. Post season: 37 games 31 starts, 8-8 4.12 era , 1.31 whip
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12800009


2053 Paul Hanna SP: 230-125 (64.8% win ratio!) 230 wins # 64 all time, 3.71 era, 1.25 whip, 2851 k's (# 55),.84 k per inning, 2.55 k/w ratio, 3x all star, 4 cy nominations, 1 era under 3, 3 whip under 1.15, 5x 200 ks. Post season: 4 WS rings, went 9-8 in 32 games with a 4.27 era and 1.34 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12684453



2053 Curt Reinecker SP: 199-190 3.56 era, 1.23 whip (# 81), 2703 k (#80), .72 k per inning, 2.54 k/w ratio, 1x all star, 3 era under 3, 3 whip under 1.15, LL in ERA, Shutouts. Post season: 2-1 in 5 games with a 3.44 era and 1.15 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12742931


2052: Warren McDermott SP: 204-173 (54%), 3.61 era, 1.26 whip, 2453 K (2.44 k/w ratio) .695 k per inning, 2x all star, 3 era under 3, 3 whip under 1.15, 1x 200 k, LL shutouts, post season: 3 WS rings 18 starts 8-7 3.64 era, 1.32 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12742928









RELIEF PITCHERS:

2054: Billy Bad, RP: 69-79 380 saves (#34), 83% save ratio, 3.79 era, 1.25 whip, 2.95 k/w ratio!, .76k per inning, 1 cy nomination, 1 fireman award (9 noms!!), 7x all star, posted 3 era under 3, 4 whip under 1.15, 30 saves 7X (1@40, 2@50,1@60) his 60 save season ranks #6 all time. League leader in saves. Post season: 16 games 6-1 in saves ((85%), 1.35 era and a 1.05 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=13071462

2054: Oscar Vaughan, RP: 54-86 260 saves (#68) 84.7% save ratio, 4.21 era, 1.43 whip, 1.73 k/w ratio, .677 k per inning, 2 cy nominations, 3x fireman awards (3 noms), 4x all star, posted 5 era under 3, 1 whip under 1.15, 30 saves 4x (1@40, 3@50), 56 save season is # 14 all time. League leader in saves 3x. Post season: 20 20 games was 0-1 and 13-3 in saves (81.2%), 2.70 era and an 0.90 whip
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=13024873

2054: Don Hogue, RP: 72-71 319 saves (#47) 84.4% save ratio, 3.53 era, 1.36 whip, .86k per inning, 1.73 k/w ratio, 4 cy nominations, 1 fireman award(5 noms), 6x all star, posted 6 era under 3, 2 whip under 1.15, 30 saves 6x, (2@40, 2@50), 55 save season is # 23 all time. League leader in saves. Post Season: 41 games, 2-3, and 13-5 in saves (72%) 4.50 era, 1.20 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=13161508


2053 Charlie Bragg RP: 35-27 with 295 saves (#54) 88.6 % save ratio), 3.67 era, 1.4 whip, 2.0 k/w ratio, .8 k per inning, 1 cy nomination, 4 fireman awards (6 nominations), 6x all star, posted 6 era under 3 (1 under 2), 1 whip under 1.15, 30 saves 6x (2@40, 3@50), his 57 save season is # 10 all time), Post season: 1 WS ring, he appeared in 8 games, converted 5 of 6 save opps with a 7.27 era and 1.85 whip.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=13024866



CATCHERS:







INFIELDERS:

2054: Jack Satriano 1b: 305 ave (#21), 307 hr, 1133 rbi, 1473 runs (#83), 325 sb (73.5% success), 502 slg pct (#55), 880 ops (#31) 121 3b (#24), 2 mvp noms, 8x all star (2 starts), hit 300 11x!!, 30 hr 1x, 30 sb 1x, LL in Ave, SLG, OPS (2x), HR, Runs. Post season: 178 ab, 303 ave with 4 hr, 15 rbi, 29 runs scored and 7 sb.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12906889


2053:Ed Ringdon 2B: 265 ave, 341 hr, 1152 rbi, 1076 runs, 217 sb (71% success), 1 MVP award, 4x all star (2 starts), hit 300 1x, 30 hr 4x, 100 rbi 3x, 100 runs 1x, 30 sb 1x, Post season: with 147 ab hit 272 with 4 hr and 22 rbi
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12853341

2053: Stan Wilson SS: 284 ave, 111 hr, 714 rbi, 1094 runs, 444 SB (#41), 76.3% success, 3x G glove, 1x all star (starter), hit 300 4x, 100 runs 1x, 30sb 6x, (2@40, 1@50), his 51 SB single season is # 47: LL in SB,. Post season: 3 WS rings, in 150 ab hit 307
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12800003

2052: Billy Miller 1b: 298 ave (#74). 274 hr, 1069 rbi, 1084 runs, 280 sb, (67% success), 492 slg (#91), 859 ops (#68), 4 mvp noms, 8x all star (5 starts), 9x g glove, hit 300 5x, 100 rbi 2x, 100 r 2x, 30 sb 2x, post season - 2 WS rings, 56 games 215 ab, 260 ave 8 hr 22 rbi, 23 runs.
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12742865







OUTFIELDERS:



2051 DARRIN WRIGHT OF: 279 ave, 362 hr (#83). 1229 rbi, 1085 runs, 214 sb (62.2%), 500 slg pct (#56), 1 mvp nom, 3x all star, hit 300 2x, 30 hr 7x (1@40), 100 rbi 5x, 100 runs 3x League leader in HRax, Post season: 32 games 125 ab, 272 ave 3 hr, 16 rbi, 19 runs 7 sb (63.6%)
http://www.simdynasty.com/player.jsp?id=12742878
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edmortimer
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Chicago votes for:

Billy Miller
Charlie Braggs
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Boston votes Hannah, Bad, Santriano ,Wright
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New York (NL) votes for:

1) 1B Jack Satriano
2) SP Paul Hanna
3) 1B Billy Miller

Looking back, I should have voted for Hanna last year. I think I ignored him since Infante and Gries were on the ballot and were considerably better than Hanna. He ticks all the boxes other than racking up All-Star's (only 3) and Cy Young's (sadly none). He got to 230 wins and came within 150 K's of 3000. He wasn't ever the best pitcher in the NL, but he was good enough to be our #1 starter when we didn't have anybody else to fill the role. On a side note: he was part of one of the greatest draft classes I've ever produced (or seen produced) in SimD. In my 1st year drafting for New York (2032), I somehow loaded up with the #5 overall Hanna (7565 lifetime AS votes), #21 Jack Fullis (4839 votes), and #37 Chucho Leiter (4998 votes).

I was on the fence about Miller, but I've decided he should be in on the basis of his outstanding defense and his very solid OPS and AVG. I'm not certain how much Satriano's awful defense hurt Philly's team defense, but I'd guess it puts his value relatively close to Miller's. If I'm going to vote for Satriano on his 1st ballot, I should reward Miller considering he was near Satriano offensively with the added bonus of the 9 Gold Gloves.
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BRO votes for:

Throneberry
Heaverlo
Hanna
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NY Generals cast 3 votes:

Hanna
Bad
Miller
DeepThreat
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Oh, is this a new ballot? Seems like the last one wasn't all that long ago.

Toronto votes in favor of:
Miller
Satriano (Racked up enough Runs the past couple of years to put him just over the mark, IMO)
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No, no homer votes this time for Vaughn or Wilson. :D

I kind of want to vote for Bragg, as his peak years were incredible... but outside of those 6-7 years, he wasn't anything special. It's just not enough. Give him 3-4 more years of that peak performance, and I think he gets my vote.

I also kind of want to vote for Hanna due to his excellent win %, but he just didn't have the sort of dominant period I like to see with SPs. A great guy to have, and a fill-in Ace for a few years, but... I guess I'm still on the fence. Though I do agree with Spicolli that he was easily overlooked on the last ballot considering who else was on there with him. He's also the best pitcher on this ballot.
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Hannah, Bad, Satriano, Miller Wright
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DeepThreat wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:28 pm I kind of want to vote for Bragg, as his peak years were incredible... but outside of those 6-7 years, he wasn't anything special. It's just not enough. Give him 3-4 more years of that peak performance, and I think he gets my vote.
In my opinion, it's extremely tough to get a good read on HOF-worthiness of relief pitchers. My completely unscientific rankings suggest Billy Bad is the most worthy based on his stats/awards. He scores a 72, which would be ahead of 6 current HOF-relievers. Hogue had the next best score of 64. Of the current HOF-relievers, Mark Verlander (55) and Andy Quarles (54) represent the lowest scorers. Braggs scored a 58 and Vaughan scored 50 points. I personally don't think any deserve to be in, but all 4 certainly profile similarly to other closers that have gotten voted in.
DeepThreat wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:28 pm I also kind of want to vote for Hanna due to his excellent win %, but he just didn't have the sort of dominant period I like to see with SPs. A great guy to have, and a fill-in Ace for a few years, but... I guess I'm still on the fence. Though I do agree with Spicolli that he was easily overlooked on the last ballot considering who else was on there with him. He's also the best pitcher on this ballot.
I have appreciated those voting for Hanna, but I understand that you have left him off your ballot. I agree that the awards he compiled do not make him stand out from the pack. In addition, his 3.71 ERA is near the highest among starters already in the Hall.
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spicoli306 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 9:16 pm In my opinion, it's extremely tough to get a good read on HOF-worthiness of relief pitchers. My completely unscientific rankings suggest Billy Bad is the most worthy based on his stats/awards. He scores a 72, which would be ahead of 6 current HOF-relievers. Hogue had the next best score of 64. Of the current HOF-relievers, Mark Verlander (55) and Andy Quarles (54) represent the lowest scorers. Braggs scored a 58 and Vaughan scored 50 points. I personally don't think any deserve to be in, but all 4 certainly profile similarly to other closers that have gotten voted in.
I agree with you here. RPs can be tough to gauge. I tend to look for periods of dominance, and the FoY award is more geared toward Saves and Strikeouts than anything else. So, if you're a closer on a bad team that gets more typical outs... you can be left out of the loop. Also, SD has a way of seriously blowing up good RPs' ERAs frequently.

Vaughn had a nice 4-year run as a closer for me, as well as a handful of other strong RP seasons in the Middle A and Setup roles. Maybe if he'd been my closer for that entire decade, he might have compiled the credentials to be elected. And on that note, I'll say this. I don't really see any of my guys as HoFers. I have a lot of Hall of Very Good types, but no real HoFers. Maybe Mike Reynolds if he has 3 more AS type years to close out his career. Tom Sosa might have a shot down the line if he really starts to pick it up. Craig Camnitz is in the same boat as Reynolds, but has more ground to cover IMO. Johnny Clark has always been more of a leadoff type, table setter... and those guys don't tend to do so well in HoF considerations. He might have a chance, but he also has very little time left. All of these guys are borderline, IMO, and need to finish off strong to get there. Basically all of my pitchers have underperformed most of their careers during the regular season. John Schnieder and Art Conigliaro should be shoe-ins.. but alas.

Bad is interesting. He's another guy who kept being moved in and out of the cloer's role. If LAN had kept him as a closer, I have no doubt he'd be in. I'm kind of on the fence with him, but again... 380 saves are nice, but I really kind of need to see something close to 500. Not that I don't devalue standard RP roles, but I really have to see something special to vote for a non-closer. He may very well be more deserving than Bragg, but I don't think any of the RP have the right credentials.
DeepThreat wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:28 pm I have appreciated those voting for Hanna, but I understand that you have left him off your ballot. I agree that the awards he compiled do not make him stand out from the pack. In addition, his 3.71 ERA is near the highest among starters already in the Hall.
I'm on the fence with Hanna. I'm not keen on supporting guys I see more as compilers than true forces. Hanna kind of straddles that line, IMO. He has a strong career statline, but he never won 20 games on a championship caliber team, only made 3 AS teams, had just 1 season under 3 in ERA (2.92), and never lead the NL in anything other than starts a couple of years. If he'd pitched for 20 years, he'd be the DDL's version of Bert Blyleven... who I also do not think should be in the real HoF. But maybe I'll take a deeper look at those in the DDL HoF on the next ballot and reconsider.
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